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  • #48557

    Anita
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    The availability of fresh ingredients is very limited where I am, and I’d like to plan a little garden around Korean vegetables/herbs. What would you want fresh veggie-wise? Garlic, radishes, sweet potatoes, onions . . . help?

    Thanks!

    (Also, if there’s a seed company or something that sends things to the US, that’d be great. Thanks!)

  • #51171

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    I would like to plant kkaennip (sesame leaves: perillar leaves), tomatoes, Chinese cabbage for kimchi, radish”. I would not plant garlic because you can get it easily everywhere.

  • #51172

    GuamGirl
    Participant

    I found one website…

    http://www.evergreenseeds.com

    They have a nice variety of asian seeds available. I’ve never ordered from them, but they claim to be a Yahoo! store, so they should be legit.

    The other option is to go to your nearest Home Depot or Lowe’s and ask if they can order any asian herbs for you.

    If I could grow a garden, I’d love to try oriental cucumbers and hot peppers. Oriental cucumbers are so much crunchier than English ones. And hot pepper plants are so pretty. I love having them around. But I live in an apartment, so it’s container gardening for me… Right now, we’ve grown grape tomatoes and I just picked up a pack of green onion seeds. I’ve also grown chives, but not from seed.

    Good luck with your garden, Anita!!!

  • #51173

    mimink
    Member

    Hello!

    If I had the patience to keep a vegetable garden, I would love to grow the korean cucumbers. They are the best!! My mom would pickle them in various methods and it would last forever.

    Currently, I have a very neglected vegetable garden of sesame leaves and peppers. It was actually left over from when my mom used to live with me. I should do something with it. =(

  • #51174

    unchienne
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    I’ve ordered from Evergreen Seeds and everything I planted did bloom. I even managed to harvest a good supply of royal crown daisy/edible chrysanthemum for soups…which is great since I love eating it and can only get to an Asian market once a month. The other plant I grew was the Korean mild pepper, which I also managed to harvest. Pretty good yield, even though I’m not much of a gardener. I bought some others seeds as well, but as I was limited to containers at the time, I didn’t plant them.

    When my mother was gardening at our old house, she would plant the following:

    1. Asian cucumbers

    2. Hot and mild pepper plants

    3. What she calls sesame leaves but I think the given name is perilla.

    4. Korean watercress (she had hers growing in a kiddie pool since they requires LOTS of water)

    5. Korean radish

    6. Korean cabbage

    I’d throw in some edible crown daisy/chrys. They’re used in a lot of spicy stews, and what you don’t use will go to flower so think of it as an edible AND ornamental. Evergreen has several varieties of plants to choose from, so they should accomodate various growing regions. We are “lucky” enough to live in the deep southern regions of Georgia, so we got lucky with some of the items which can’t take a frost. One day I’d love to try my hand at Korean melon, but this year I was too lazy. I do have a nice kalamansi (filipino citrus) growing on my front porch though.

  • #51175

    JG1
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    My mother in law grows perilla, korean melon, korean red peppers, bell peppers, chives, green onion, cabbages, garlic, lettuces, tomatoes, cucumbers, potatoes, beans, and edible flowers.

    Me, I just grow dandelions and sunflowers. And we eat them both.

  • #51176

    Tatiemimosa
    Member

    Hello

    I would like to grow a vegetable garden next year. I was thinking of a self watering container garden since I live in the city. Any one know how these vegetables fare in these types of gardens?

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  • #51177

    oksipak
    Member

    Just received my seeds from Evergreen Seed Co.:

    Perilla

    Oriental Radish

    Oriental Spinach

    Chinese Leek

    Asparagus Bean

    Coriander

    I’m going to attempt to grow these in our area this year. The temperature is cool here and constant 65-70 degrees, summers are foggy so don’t really know how they will grow.

  • #51178

    sirdanilot
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    Cilantro, perilla leaves are very easy to grow. Also chives (both european and asian). I coulnd’t imagine hot peppers being very hard either.

    With perilla keep in mind that it will take a very long time to sprout, but as soon as it does it grows very rapidly. You will want to pick the very young leaves, because in my experience the plant gets tougher and more bitter when maturing. So the enormous perilla leaves, you will probably want to buy in the store. Perilla plant also gives ddeulkkae seeds (and cilantro gives coriander seeds which can be used as a spice in things like indian cuisine, etc.)

    Most greens won’t be very hard to grow either. I planted ‘mustard spinach’ once and it was almost like a weed, overtaking my garden ! I think the crysanthemum is a very good idea. Perhaps they sell minari on that site as well.

    If you want to grow fruits, consider raspberries. It will take a couple of years before the plant is mature, but when it is you have delicious fruit. It is a climbing plant, so grow it against your fence or something. Also strawberries are of course a classic; just be careful not to let the snails eat them.

    Blackberries can also be grown, but are better picked in the wild for they are ubiquitous anyway (here in europe we have to look for them, but in America they should be everywhere simply because there’s more nature).

  • #51179

    oksipak
    Member

    My 2nd shipment from Kitazawa Seed Co. consist of the following:

    1) Thai Chili

    2) Korean Radish

    3) Sesame Black

    4) Japanese Mugwort

    5) Pepper-Japanese

    6) Chinese Leek Flowering Type

    7) Chinese Leek Hiro Haba

    8) Ordered Some Burdock this week

    Just going to try planting some of these seeds in pots. I’ll keep you posted as to what grew. We have LOTS of gophers in our lawn and neighborhood, so potted plants are the best way to go.

    • #79282

      Gochusmajam
      Participant

      Have you tried growing radish in a pot? Do you think it would work indoors? Would I need a large pot to accommodate the root?

  • #51180

    oksipak
    Member

    Currently I have Chinese Leeks, Chinese Pea Pods, all varieties of radishes, carrots, Burdock, Mugwort, Bush Beans, Edible Mums, Zukes, Dwarf Peas, Mustard, Turnips, Beets, Chinese Chives, Mustard, tomatoes, potatoes and all varieties of herbs growing. The only disappointment is the Perilla Leaves that never came up this year. :)

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    oksipak
    Member

    …cont…Photos of the tomatoes and zuke…

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  • #51182

    oksipak
    Member

    …cont…photos of Chinese Chives, carrots, lettuce, Burdock and Bush Beans… :)

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  • #51183

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    Awesome photos! I wish I could visit your house to see these precious things! You really have a green thumb! I’m very happy for you!

  • #51184

    oksipak
    Member

    April 2, 2012 (Monday): This season’s Mugwort growing in a pot. Made Mugwort Soup 쑥국 for the first time. I will be making the flavorful soup again as long as the Mugwort keeps growing. :D (ZONE 9)

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  • #51185

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    I can almost smell your ssukguk! Beautiful precious soup made with home grown ssuk (mugwort)! The recipe is here! https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/ssukguk

  • #51186

    oksipak
    Member

    Saturday July 21, 2012: Wish our Perilla Leaves were sprouting but not having any luck for last year and this year (it is a difficult seed to sprout in our Zone 9 apparently). If anyone has 100% seed germination, I'd like to hear of your secrets in "how-to-grow" Perilla Leaves! :D This dish ( https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/heukimjajuk ) is garnished with homegrown Chives and Mints. This year the Chinese Sweat Peas, Korean Rat Radish are doing excellent! Dill and Fennel do well in Zone9 (which is perfect for our Pacific King Salmom Gravlax Recipe and Smoked Salmon that my husband makes.) Zukes are being harvested and Chinese Chives are getting ready for the next Kimchi Batch. What is everyone else doing? :P

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  • #51187

    Mikura
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    I think germinating perilla seeds can be fickle due to dormancy issues. Some people say they may be dormant for over a year. Personally, instead of dealing with the seeds, I just take cuttings from an existing plant and root them to keep a constant supply of new perilla plants. They are very easy to root in my experience, as long as you keep the cutting in soil in a quite humid container until they form roots. The only drawback of course is that you need an existing perilla plant, but I’ve even been able to root cuttings found in a korean grocery store. Hope that gives some good suggestions. I’m zone 7 so I guess your mileage may vary.

  • #51188

    cbeau69
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    I have had very good luck with perilla in Florida. I got my seeds from http://www.evergreenseeds.com

  • #51189

    oksipak
    Member

    September 21, 2013: My garden in a greenhouse for the very first year. Zone 9. In our area along the Pacific Ocean, a greenhouse is necessary to grow Korean vegetable plants—three varieties of tomatoes, Perilla Leaves, Jalapenos, Chinese Chives, Basil, and Tomatillos. Trying out the new greenhouse this year to see what grows and since it does fantastic, next year my Asian garden will be even larger. :D

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  • #51190

    oksipak
    Member

    Sept. 22, 2013: Ok, here is the end result of Perilla pickled leaves that I got to taste this morning. It tasted so fresh and delicious! :)

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  • #51192

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    oksibak,

    Thank you for sharing the photo of your garden! I think it’s perfect: full of fresh, homegrown ingredients. Looking at them must make you really happy and satisfied, and using the bounty to prepare meals must make you even happier! Hopefully you saved some room to grow beautiful flowers, too!

    Thanks again for posting these photos here!

  • #51193

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Maangchi, thank you for your wonderful recipes! I have had a vegetable garden for many years and you have inspired me to try growing kimchi ingredients this year. I’m also trying to impress my Korean friends! ^^ I had great success with Nappa cabbage, Korean radish, leeks and Thai chili peppers, all of which I used in making your 막김치and 깟두기! Following are some pictures from harvest and 김장. 감사합니다!

    데이빗

  • #51194

    ddnorman
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    That day I also made your 짜장면. And the next day we had a 김밥 making party!

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  • #51195

    oksipak
    Member

    WOWZA!!! Hey DDNORMAN, your garden harvest makes me jealous, in fact, you make me want to try growing the Napa Cabbage next year. :D

  • #51196

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Oksipak, thanks for the compliment! I think you should have no trouble with the nappa cabbage based on what I've seen from your photos. Your 깻잎 김치 looks really awesome! Below are a few more of my garden in full bloom. BTW I'm in Zone 5b.
    Dave

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  • #51197

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    Wow Dave I am totally impressed by this stunning garden!

    The quality of your radishes and cabbage looks top-notch! It’s hard to buy such high quality radish here in New York, I have to be really lucky to find it.

    Good work! I will share some of your photos with my other readers to inspire them to grow their own vegetables.

  • #51198

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Maangchi,

    Thank you very much for your nice comments! Your words are inspiring me to make an even better garden next year. I will continue to share my Korean vegetable garden experience with you and your readers as long as you are willing to listen! ^_^

    I really am enjoying making delicious Korean food with your recipes, even more so when I can use my harvest.

    Following is a picture from the last harvest of the year for me including red cabbage, Collards and leeks. As you saw from my recent posts I used these in your "emergency kimchi" and "Collard greens side dish" recipes!

    감사합니다!
    Dave

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  • #51199

    oksipak
    Member

    ddnorman, Happy New Year 2014, a bit late but what do you have growing in your garden this year? :D

  • #51200

    ddnorman
    Participant

    oksipak,

    Happy belated New Year to you! Right now I am planning to grow similar veggies as last year including baechu, mu (3 varieties) leeks, chili peppers (Thai, Serrano, jalapeno), Thai Basil, pak choi, Swiss Chard, lettuce Collard greens, tomatoes and possibly snow peas. How about you? See pic for what my yard looks like as of today! I will start planting on Memorial Day.

    Dave

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  • #51201

    WinglessAngel
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    My garden plans (among other things) this year are soy, mung, purple basil, chinese chives, korean hyssop, oregon II giant sugar snap peas, orange master dwarf pomagranite (indoors for hubs to bonsai), lao purple stripe eggplant, takii gem watermelon, chinese red noodle bean, taiwan black seeded yard long bean, chinese mosaic bean, and thai purple bean. I have a lot more planned too but that’s the extent of my asian produce list for this year. It’s hard to find seeds that I can get to grow in zone 6A here where I live.

    Love your garden photos Dave! (Sorry I snuck into your thread, not stalking I promise, I just love gardening) lol

    This is also where I buy most of my seeds from as well here in the states as they are all heirloom and Non GMO. They are always fast to ship and have great prices, shipping is totally inexpensive and you always get a free pack of seeds with every order (this year I got a pack of red romaine). Great customer service and they do have a great variety of Asian veggies, fruits and herbs that they sell too.

    http://www.rareseeds.com/

  • #51202

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Hi Elsie!

    For the compliments on my garden…감사합니다! ^^ You are welcome to drop by and comment on any of my posts any time. I enjoy talking to folks with similar interests…especially Korean related things. I love vegetable gardening (been doing it for a number of years now) and my wife does an awesome flower gardens. I look forward to sharing my garden notes & pictures with you and Maangchi’s readers and hope to see your garden pics here as well. Then it’ll be your post too! ^^

    I think you should try growing Korean Radish (무), Napa Cabbage (배추) and Perilla (깻잎). They grew quite nicely for me in zone 5b and are essential to many of Maangchi’s best recipes. I have ordered seeds from the Kitazawa Seed Co and will look at picking some up at my favorite Korean grocer (Chung Gae in Acton MA https://www.maangchi.com/shopping/chung-gae-market ).

    Cheers!

    Dave

  • #51203

    WinglessAngel
    Participant

    Thanks Dave :) Actually radish and brassica type veggies don’t grow well in my area so hence the lack thereof of them in my garden list. I would if I could get them to grow. Though if hubby does decide to just order in top soil this year I might still try to find a few packs of white radish to grow as they would probably do better in the better soil for my raised containers. I am doing my garden a bit on the unorthodox side this year and likely next, we plan on purchasing raised bed kits so my garden this year is going to be mostly giant tote boxes with holes drilled in them. They’re all ready to go, just need the dirt. Hubs isn’t relishing the thought of toting dirt from the back of the property all the way up front (3 acres) so he might just order me in good topsoil lol

  • #51204

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Hi Maangchi! ^^

    The garden has been planted and I now it is time to wait for the harvest!

    Cheers!
    Dave

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    ddnorman
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    In the middle picture above, I put a handful of organic fertilizer (bone meal, blood meal, greensand) and a handful of composted cow manure/peat moss into the bottom of the hole before I put the plant in. Once all the plants are in I give them a good drink of water!

  • #51206

    WinglessAngel
    Participant

    Ok, sorry I haven’t been in in forever! Here’s an updated look at the majority of my garden. Ddnorman, you know the history as to the change from all tote bins and pots to the raised beds earlier than expected lol, but here it is. Mostly Asian veg and herbs here. My Wall O’ Colorful Bins is growing beautifully and attacking the netting already. My newly landscaped raised bed area is also growing gorgeously and doing great!

    Some pics here of immediately after everything was planted. A few of my hubby’s bonsai’s too as well.

    Oh and the flag in the middle of the garden is to piss off my racist neighbors :D

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  • #51207

    WinglessAngel
    Participant

    Forgot hubby’s bonsai pic lol He has a couple more I forgot to take a photo of too.

    Your garden is looking awesome Dave!

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  • #51208

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Thanks winglessangel! Yours is looking great as well! I especially like the 태극기 /Taegeukgi / South Korean flag!

  • #51209

    ddnorman
    Participant

    언녕하세요 Maangchi씨!

    Garden update…In my garden: Korean radish (무), Napa cabbage (배추), Korean pepper (고추), lettuce (쌈), Pak choi, Perilla (깻잎) looking good so far!

    Cheers!
    Dave

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  • #51210

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    ahhh, so precious stuff! Thank you for showing us this photo! The top left one are Korean radishes? The soil looks very rich! Cheers to your vegetables! : )

  • #51211

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Maangchi,

    고맙습니다!!! 😃 네~ 그래요! 그거 무를 이에요! Yes those are radish! I will need to thin them! 😭

    Cheers!

    Dave

  • #51212

    ddnorman
    Participant

    Hi Maangchi!

    Here is my latest garden update! I had some trouble with slugs eating my baechu, but I think they are making a comeback! The radishes, peppers, kkatnip, leeks and cucumbers are doing pretty good! I'miss hoping I get enough cucumbers and "passion altieri" (that's what Kitazawa Seed Co. calls them) radishes to make cucumber kimchi and ponytail radish kimchi along with baechu kimchi and kkakdugi!

    Cheers,
    Dave

    PS the last one is a picture of our front yard. My veggie garden is on the right.

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  • #51213

    Maangchi
    Keymaster

    Oh thanks for sharing the photos of your garden! Kimchi and some side dishes made from these vegetables will be extra-special!

  • #58233

    ddnorman
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    Here is some of my garden harvest! It includes Korean radish, Korean cucumber and kkatnip!

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  • #62462

    ddnorman
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    Hi Maangchi!

    It’s that time of year again! The garden is in and doing well! The usual suspects are in there… Napa cabbage, Korean radish, Korean cucumber, Korean pepper and Perilla along with other peppers, cabbage, kale, swiss chard, lettuce, beans, green onions and tomatoes.

    I can’t wait to make kimchi, kkakdugi and oi sobagi using my veggies and your recipes!

    Cheers!
    Dave

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  • #62509

    EvilGrin
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    The main Asian or expensive ingredients i grow are.

    Lemon Grass, its so easy to grow from cuttings

    Dragon chili peppers…cayenne Thai hybrid.

    Shallots…at upto $5lb in stores i cant afford to buy them. I can turn that $5 worth into $30+ worth easily. They keep very well also.

    Garlic Chives…super easy to grow also and i use them instead of green onion in a few recipes.

    Culantro…Cilantro is easy to get but culantro is far less common around here. You cant have a good Pho Bo soup without some fresh culantro leaves.

    Im lucky to have two large specialty markets fairly close. Some stuff just takes up to much space and its cheap enough at the market.

    • #62510

      ddnorman
      Participant

      EvilGrin,

      I have done lemon grass in the past. Also Vietnamese coriander/rau ram. Currently doing Thai chili and garlic chives as well. Never tried culantro though. We can seem to get it in the local Asian markets. We are lucky to have several pan Asian, Vietnamese and Korean markets including HMart nearby.

      Cheers!
      Dave

  • #62511

    EvilGrin
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    Ive grown Birdseye in the past but these are a Thai chili and cayenne hybrid. There are supposed to have slightly less heat than a Birdseye.

    The Korean market sells Korean pepper flakes so cheap i dont bother growing them either. At $8/2lbs for Assi brand pepper flakes its not worth my garden space. I use way more fresh jalapenos and hot wax.

    Global Foods has culantro sometimes but they run out all the time. Same with Holy Basil and it always happens when i need it right away. Its very aggravating because the owner is from Thailand. :D

  • #62515

    Oxide
    Participant

    A lot of Asian seeds at Kitazawa Seed Co. It is family owned, they have been importing Asian seeds for a gazillion years. This is where I got seeds for Korean radish and perilla. I have been growing ao (blue … meaning green) perilla for years. This year I bought seeds for Korean perilla — green on top, red under the leaf. Supposed to taste different than the all green, Japanese ao perilla.

    kitazawaseed.com

    • #62518

      ddnorman
      Participant

      Hi Oxide!

      I also get my seeds from Kitazawa! I have had good success with them. That reminds me~ I need to order more kkatnip (Korean Perilla) and Korean radish.

      Cheers!
      Dave

  • #62524

    EvilGrin
    Participant

    Thank you so much for the link. Finally authentic Korean Perilla and not Japanese shiso.

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